Office Matters: The BCO Podcast

Office Matters is a podcast brought to you by the BCO in which we delve into everything workspace and work places, from the people that make it happen, the places that it helps create, the planet that we need to protect as we redesign, retrofit and deliver fresh workspaces and the policies and practices that are impacting the sector today and tomorrow.
Office Matters is a podcast brought to you by the BCO in which we delve into everything workspace and work places, from the people that make it happen, the places that it helps create, the planet that we need to protect as we redesign, retrofit and deliver fresh workspaces and the policies and practices that are impacting the sector today and tomorrow.
Episodes
Episodes



Aug 11, 2025
Workspace Unwired: From adversarial to authentic
Aug 11, 2025
Aug 11, 2025
32 min
In this episode of the BCO’s Workspace Unwired podcast, chief executive Samantha McClary sits down with Emma Roche, a partner in law firm Greenwoods, to discuss the changing nature of the office world from a legal perspective.
With reforms to the Landlord & Tenant Act, a mooted ban on upward only rent reviews and a wider variety of occupational agreements out there, Emma shares her views on potential fresh new legislation and gives us the lowdown on a new managed space agreement that does away with legalese and replaces it with more human and less adversarial language.
Could this be the start of something new?
Emma is more than just a leading lawyer – she’s been listed multiple times in the corporate occupier Legal 500 – she’s also a coach, grounding her practice in the teachings of philosophy.Keep listening as we delve in to why knowing our what and why couldn’t be more important when it comes to delivering workspace that works.
Aug 11, 2025
32 min



Jul 28, 2025
Workspace Unwired: Unrivalled access
Jul 28, 2025
Jul 28, 2025
42 min
In this debut episode of the BCO’s Workspace Unwired podcast, chief executive Samantha McClary sits down with Helen Hare, director of projects at GPE, to find out a little bit more about the newly installed president of the British Council for Offices.
Listen in to find out what makes Helen tick, her journey into real estate and why, if you want to be successful, picking your team well and being an ace at project management are vital skills to have.
We talk more about the value that comes from the BCO’s unrivalled access to excellence, the importance of talent in the sector, the need to close a growing skills gap, the importance of language, Helen’s responsibility as a visible role model and how the world of workspace and work places needs to be more widely recognised as contributor to growth.
There’s all that and so much more.
Enjoy.
Jul 28, 2025
42 min



Sep 30, 2022
Sep 30, 2022
34 min
Designing for Neurodiversity:
Research shows that members of the neurodivergent community continue to face struggles with disabling workspaces, with the British Council for Offices calling on landlords and occupiers to urgently design more inclusive office spaces.
One in seven individuals in the UK is classed as neurodivergent, yet these individuals’ needs continue to be neglected by businesses.
Those who belong to the neurodiversity community are currently underserved by and often unsupported in the current employment ecosystem. A BCO Research report published earlier this year was undertaken by Centric Lab and PLP Architecture and examines the needs of the neurodiverse workforce.
To this end, the report was divided into four core sections: defining neurodiversity, the link between place and health, identifying the principles of an enabling work environment, and design insights for a work-enabling environment. It brings in research from the worlds of neuroscience, lived experience and design to create a holistic and ecological approach to the creation of enabling work environments. The intention has been to look at how neurodiversity, employment and office spaces intersect to enact health and social justice. Combining the insights of neuroscience and the expertise of design, it sets out new standards and recommendations and is intended as an introduction for those who are building and designing offices.
In ep. 6 of Talking Shop, BCO NextGen London's Oliver Hall sits down with one of the report authors, Araceli Camargo, lead scientist at Centric Lab and a cognitive neuroscientist focused on how people interact with urban environments.
The full BCO research report is available to download from the BCO website: https://www.bco.org.uk/Research/Publications/Designing_for_Neurodiversity.aspx
Sep 30, 2022
34 min



Apr 28, 2022
Apr 28, 2022
14 min
In a 15-minute rapid-fire episode, Mike Burton (Director, AECOM) and BCO NextGen's Chris Radley (Associate, Fletcher Priest) chat about lessons learned from the pandemic, resilient buildings, tech and staying creative in the field of architecture.
Mike leads AECOM's London Building Engineering team and is responsible for major UK and international projects. Mike has over 22 years of experience in sustainable design and delivery.
Chris commenced with Fletcher Priest in 2011 and has worked on a range of workplace, leisure and hospitality projects at all design and construction stages. His portfolio includes projects of a variety of scales, both new-build and refurbishment leading from feasibility through to construction. Chris has also trained at the Centre for Window and Cladding Technology, and put these skills to use leading the design and coordination of the BCO Award-winning Brunel Building façade and external structure.
#bconextgen #talkingshop #bconotebook
Apr 28, 2022
14 min



Jan 27, 2022
Jan 27, 2022
29 min
In episode 4, 2021's NextGen Rising Star Midlands Award Winner Conor Nolan speaks to Nigel Miller, MD of Cordless Consultants and author of BCO research report, ‘Impact of technology on the Covid-19 workplace.’ They discuss which tech trends are dominating regions the UK, barriers to adoption of smart tech in buildings and how H.R, I.T & FM in commercial real estate are having to work closer together than ever.
#bconextgen
Jan 27, 2022
29 min



Sep 13, 2021
Sep 13, 2021
20 min
In the latest episode of Talking Shop, Clare Bailey, author of the BCO Research report, 'Affordable Workspace: A Solution, Not a Problem' (undertaken by Savills) speaks to NextGen's Hannah Buxton.
"Productivity is up, but innovation is down." The two discuss affordable workspace at length, SME's, building reuse, social sustainability, community and the recent workplace challenges Gen Z and Millennials have faced #remoteworking
Sep 13, 2021
20 min



Aug 26, 2021
Aug 26, 2021
35 min
In a varied discussion and debate, Ken Giannini (Director, MCM) and one of NextGen's Rising Stars Yohance Harper (Associate Partner, Quadrant) chat about the work they're doing, and share their thoughts on architecture, sustainability, mentoring and purpose. They also share all things inspiration, career journeys and future industry trends.
“As a young architect, a previous boss told me to always challenge solutions from the past” – Ken Giannini
Yohance reminds us that great architecture should make you feel something and stresses the importance of anything that helps you to grow - especially chatting to industry peers - you just never know what could come from mingling and #networking.
“Buildings need to be platforms for partnerships.” If you look at your career, what would you like to leave behind and be known for? For Yohance, it’s people and places.
#bconextgen #talkingshop
Aug 26, 2021
35 min



Jun 14, 2021
Jun 14, 2021
35 min
In the first episode of Talking Shop with the NextGen: Gillian Stewart (BCO Scotland's Chair and MLA Director) speaks to Savannah de Savary, Founder & CEO of Built_ID + Forbes 30 under 30 Social Entrepreneur and one of BCO Nextgen’s PropTech Company of the Year Award winners. They discuss the commercial real estate industry at large, PropTech, and how we get more young people a step up the construction career ladder and more.
Jun 14, 2021
35 min



